New page, so it must be ready to be released anytime now, right? I guess it will have to be next week since the maps have only been released on a Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday.
-- Garmin Nuvi 2450
Sat, 10/21/2023 - 12:42am
tmiller219
16 years
My point is
I am not trying to put Garmin out of business. I am not going to waste anymore money on them.
Sat, 10/21/2023 - 11:29pm
Juggernaut
16 years
.
My 3790 is still going, but it's getting long in the tooth. I guess Google maps will have to be my main nav aid. An end of an era...
-- nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK
Sun, 10/22/2023 - 11:12pm
JanJ
15 years
STILL NOTHING?
HOW EMBARRASSING!
Put me in same box as tmiller219
2x 2689 LMT’s. Both on second battery. Both with much “lifetime” left.
And a 660 that Garmin still updates but because of small screens, Garmin Truncates street names, and when told about it, said “Oh, we didn’t know that, but we won’t fix it”
Something about “Lifetime”…. Yet when I asked Garmin why “Lifetime” maps still works on 660, he just stammered, then ended conversation.
-- A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever....
And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!
Sun, 10/22/2023 - 9:35am
John from PA
10 years
Maybe, maybe not
Juggernaut wrote:
My 3790 is still going, but it's getting long in the tooth. I guess Google maps will have to be my main nav aid. An end of an era...
I find your comment interesting, and that is from the standpoint of owning a nuvi 2689. A few weeks back a group of 4 people were headed somewhere and the 2 back seat occupants commented on how much more convenient my nuvi was as compared to their phone based navigation. On the return trip, I had a different pair of individuals in the back seat and they made pretty much the same comment.
This was in Nassau County (Long Island) New York with heavy traffic and a considerable amount of construction.
-- John from PA
Sun, 10/22/2023 - 4:49pm
Juggernaut
16 years
.
The traffic reports on the 3790 here, WA and OR are nonexistent in the middle of the state. Google maps were pretty good, though.
I do like the Garmin, but when it dies, I doubt I'll replace it with another. Perhaps in large cities it makes more sense with better traffic coverage.
-- nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK
Sun, 10/22/2023 - 6:44pm
Speed2
14 years
Agreed
Only if traffic was a concern for me. Its non existent where i live and i have to travel 30 miles west to get it. I don't find it an issue for me personally. I've been retired for 10 years. Its an issue for many people.
Then again if your stuck on the highway traffic or no traffic everyone is trying to get off...lol and your stuck
-- 2 DriveSmart 65's - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.
Mon, 10/23/2023 - 10:45am
canoe32
10 years
Confused
After many months I decided to update the map in my 2597. When Garmin Express said the map was up to date, I was confused and thought for sure something must be wrong. I thought I was a few updates behind, but apparently I'm not.
Mon, 10/23/2023 - 1:39pm
sydric
16 years
This Week?
Please!
Mon, 10/23/2023 - 3:48pm
anh
11 years
Maybe Not :)
Anywhere I go now, street changes are a lot. Especially the place I live now, I cannot recognize it anymore, more cones, more bicycle lanes, 2 ways become one way street, etc... confused everywhere.
Pretty sure if Garmin releasing new map now, they won't be able to catch up new changes.
But as far as people guess, still a little hope somewhere else
Mon, 10/23/2023 - 3:53pm
bsp131
16 years
updat4e
renegade734 wrote:
How long until the next update? Discuss ...
it has been quite a shile
Tue, 10/24/2023 - 7:34pm
pratzert
17 years
New Map Update
Seriously... it's GOT to be soon.
Wed, 10/25/2023 - 6:23am
bennor3814
9 years
It's a
Wednesday, will we see it drop today or tomorrow? Or will be have to wait another week (or five)?
-- Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
Fri, 10/27/2023 - 10:54am
anoldman
14 years
I think we all can see this party's over
My Garmin is about to become a permanent glovebox dweller. Even when the maps are "updated" there are too many errors unresolved. I've been looking at offline navigation apps for my phone and some are pretty good too. I've been a Garmin user for many years, but now it's time to move on.
Fri, 10/27/2023 - 12:39pm
tmiller219
16 years
I think
I think your right. I have been using google maps along with my garmin. It's just about time to ditch the GARMIN.
Fri, 10/27/2023 - 1:13pm
Strephon_Alkhalikoi
14 years
Garmin Won't Be A Glovebox Dweller Here, BUT...
anoldman wrote:
My Garmin is about to become a permanent glovebox dweller. Even when the maps are "updated" there are too many errors unresolved. I've been looking at offline navigation apps for my phone and some are pretty good too. I've been a Garmin user for many years, but now it's time to move on.
For offline navigation on Android I've been using Here, since it is the source of Garmin's maps. Having tried other options I found it to be the best alternative to a paid option like Sygic.
I know the writing is on the wall for Garmin in the automotive segment and have known it for years now: it was one of the reasons I left this forum. But at the same time I love having the GPS on my dashboard, ready to use. I'm just fortunate my navigation needs are not extensive.
-- "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."
--Douglas Adams
Sat, 10/28/2023 - 7:00am
plunder
16 years
Can't disagree
Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:
anoldman wrote:
My Garmin is about to become a permanent glovebox dweller. Even when the maps are "updated" there are too many errors unresolved. I've been looking at offline navigation apps for my phone and some are pretty good too. I've been a Garmin user for many years, but now it's time to move on.
For offline navigation on Android I've been using Here, since it is the source of Garmin's maps. Having tried other options I found it to be the best alternative to a paid option like Sygic.
I know the writing is on the wall for Garmin in the automotive segment and have known it for years now: it was one of the reasons I left this forum. But at the same time I love having the GPS on my dashboard, ready to use. I'm just fortunate my navigation needs are not extensive.
I agree with what everyone says about the automotive market drying up, but I have kind of an emotional attachment with my dashboard mounted gps and the whole rigmarole of updating my personal POIs and then reloading them into the unit by using my well-oiled procedures. I shall soldier on and wait patiently by the side of the road waiting for the next Garmin update.
Phil
-- "No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."
Sat, 10/28/2023 - 2:11pm
geo334
12 years
possible
there might not be another map update ! and if there is it could be the last one . but it would be nice if they would give loyal customers some type of notice !
Sat, 10/28/2023 - 4:10pm
alandb
15 years
Map update.
I am not giving up yet. Europe got a 2024.20 update so it is still possible NA will get one too. That said, with the declining sales of dedicated automotive GPS devices, it wouldn't surprise me if Garmin goes to one update a year. As long as Garmin continues to offer and sell new Drive, RV, Dezl and Zumo devices, I think they will continue to have map updates. Here's hoping anyway! Don't be surprised though if they discontinue map updates on more and more older devices as they have done with the nuvi 3xx, 6xx, 8xx and a few others.
I will have to admit that I am using the on-board navigation system in my new Toyota and have not tried to find a mounting spot for my DriveLuxe 51. However if I ever am able to take a long road trip again, I will use the DriveLuxe because of its multipoint route planning capability.
I am still using the nuvi 3597 in my old Ford Ranger which I use mostly for local driving and short road trips.
Has anyone tried reaching out to garmin to inquire when the next update will be available?
Sun, 10/29/2023 - 5:01am
plunder
16 years
Whit I'll miss..
When the time comes, as it must, what I'll miss most is the ability to add to my own personal POI's. I have probably a total of a thousand lines of POIs that I'll not be able to use. On the other hand, I agree with alandb that as long as Garmin is releasing new dashboard models how can they not come out with updates? What I don't understand though is Garmin's silence about their plans for the automotive market. Oh well, farewell old Garmin, we hardly knew ye.
Phil
-- "No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."
Sun, 10/29/2023 - 8:47am
Jery
13 years
Maybe..
there isn't going to be any more updates?
-- Garmin Nuvi 765T, Garmin Drive 60LM
Sun, 10/29/2023 - 11:01am
DrShrimpPuertoRico
doubt
Jery wrote:
there isn't going to be any more updates?
What's the legal definition of 'lifetime' map updates?
Sun, 10/29/2023 - 11:48am
jackrabbit000
10 years
Page 7?
…nope.
Sun, 10/29/2023 - 11:49am
jackrabbit000
10 years
One more try…
…oh so close lol
Sun, 10/29/2023 - 11:53am
jackrabbit000
10 years
Third time lucky?
…doesn’t like me.
Sun, 10/29/2023 - 4:46pm
Strephon_Alkhalikoi
14 years
Lifetime
DrShrimpPuertoRico wrote:
What's the legal definition of 'lifetime' map updates?
The lifetime of the device, as determined by Garmin. Since they are still selling new devices, there will continue to be map updates, and the frequency of those updates is officially up to 3 per year. Reality says you can expect at best 1 update per year.
Responding to a different poster, asking Garmin when the next update will be is pointless. Others have done so before, and Garmin has never tipped their hand.
-- "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."
--Douglas Adams
Mon, 10/30/2023 - 9:10am
sunsetrunner
13 years
I just occasionally attach
I just occasionally attach my device and update. Occasionally being defined as every year or so (+-) when I remember.
Mon, 10/30/2023 - 1:19pm
bsp131
16 years
GPS
I agree. I love my Garmin but it is not as reliable as the Waze and does not offer alternatives like Waze does. I use my GPS b/c if I use Waze in Android Auto, I can't play music from my IPod since there is only 1 slot.
Tue, 10/31/2023 - 8:17am
bennor3814
9 years
Tuesday
Morning bump while we continue to wait.
-- Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
Tue, 10/31/2023 - 10:58am
pratzert
17 years
Garmin Map Update Watch: 2024.20
It seems to be a longer time than usual this time around.
Tue, 10/31/2023 - 11:35am
bennor3814
9 years
271 days
pratzert wrote:
It seems to be a longer time than usual this time around.
This is apparently the longest it's ever been (271 days) for the North American maps. The 2024.10 update was on Feb 01, 2023 (Wed). Previously it was 203 days from 2023.20 - Jul 13, 2022.
It seems to be a longer time than usual this time around.
This is apparently the longest it's ever been (271 days) for the North American maps. The 2024.10 update was on Feb 01, 2023 (Wed). Previously it was 203 days from 2023.20 - Jul 13, 2022.
Release Date History For Garmin Maps
Yeah, this sucks. My street was built over 3 years ago and it's still not mapped
Wed, 11/01/2023 - 11:28am
Canoe-NC
2 years
Garmin Public Land Map Update 2023.10
I just had a Garmin Public Land Map Update (2023.10) installed for my Garmin Montana 700 Handheld Unit. So maybe other map updates are forthcoming.
Gary
Thu, 11/02/2023 - 5:21am
KMM000
better luck next year
It does look like the map updates apply to devices other than auto GPS so I don't think they are going to stop though they have obviously become less frequent.
Devices compatible with City Navigator® North America NT
Aww, c'mon and listen up, Garmin. Your loyal customers need, yea crave, the new maps. You gotta have 'em by now, so how about letting us have 'em. However, if you got 'em and they don't work, then never mind we'll wait.
Phil
-- "No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."
Thu, 11/02/2023 - 10:24am
KMM000
the current map is 2024.10
Canoe-NC wrote:
I just had a Garmin Public Land Map Update (2023.10) installed for my Garmin Montana 700 Handheld Unit. So maybe other map updates are forthcoming.
Gary
For the auto GPS, 2023.10 is from 2022, the current NA map is 2024.10.
EU got a 2024.20, so agree, something will be forthcoming, but when.
Thu, 11/02/2023 - 7:20pm
nickjr
17 years
I agree wholeheartedly with
I agree wholeheartedly with you!!!!!
-- NickJr
Nuvi 3597LMT
Fri, 11/03/2023 - 12:17pm
sydric
16 years
Next Week?
This week is almost over.
Mon, 11/06/2023 - 7:26am
bennor3814
9 years
Monday
bump while we wait.
-- Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
Wed, 11/08/2023 - 12:29pm
bennor3814
9 years
Garmin
Is now getting it in their own forum. :-) People wondering where the next NA map update is.
New page
New page, so it must be ready to be released anytime now, right? I guess it will have to be next week since the maps have only been released on a Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday.
Garmin Nuvi 2450
My point is
I am not trying to put Garmin out of business. I am not going to waste anymore money on them.
.
My 3790 is still going, but it's getting long in the tooth. I guess Google maps will have to be my main nav aid. An end of an era...
nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK
STILL NOTHING?
HOW EMBARRASSING!
Put me in same box as tmiller219
2x 2689 LMT’s. Both on second battery. Both with much “lifetime” left.
And a 660 that Garmin still updates but because of small screens, Garmin Truncates street names, and when told about it, said “Oh, we didn’t know that, but we won’t fix it”
Something about “Lifetime”…. Yet when I asked Garmin why “Lifetime” maps still works on 660, he just stammered, then ended conversation.
A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!
Maybe, maybe not
My 3790 is still going, but it's getting long in the tooth. I guess Google maps will have to be my main nav aid. An end of an era...
I find your comment interesting, and that is from the standpoint of owning a nuvi 2689. A few weeks back a group of 4 people were headed somewhere and the 2 back seat occupants commented on how much more convenient my nuvi was as compared to their phone based navigation. On the return trip, I had a different pair of individuals in the back seat and they made pretty much the same comment.
This was in Nassau County (Long Island) New York with heavy traffic and a considerable amount of construction.
John from PA
.
The traffic reports on the 3790 here, WA and OR are nonexistent in the middle of the state. Google maps were pretty good, though.
I do like the Garmin, but when it dies, I doubt I'll replace it with another. Perhaps in large cities it makes more sense with better traffic coverage.
nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK
Agreed
Only if traffic was a concern for me. Its non existent where i live and i have to travel 30 miles west to get it. I don't find it an issue for me personally. I've been retired for 10 years. Its an issue for many people.
Then again if your stuck on the highway traffic or no traffic everyone is trying to get off...lol and your stuck
2 DriveSmart 65's - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.
Confused
After many months I decided to update the map in my 2597. When Garmin Express said the map was up to date, I was confused and thought for sure something must be wrong. I thought I was a few updates behind, but apparently I'm not.
This Week?
Please!
Maybe Not :)
Anywhere I go now, street changes are a lot. Especially the place I live now, I cannot recognize it anymore, more cones, more bicycle lanes, 2 ways become one way street, etc... confused everywhere.
Pretty sure if Garmin releasing new map now, they won't be able to catch up new changes.
But as far as people guess, still a little hope somewhere else
updat4e
How long until the next update? Discuss ...
it has been quite a shile
New Map Update
Seriously... it's GOT to be soon.
It's a
Wednesday, will we see it drop today or tomorrow? Or will be have to wait another week (or five)?
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
I think we all can see this party's over
My Garmin is about to become a permanent glovebox dweller. Even when the maps are "updated" there are too many errors unresolved. I've been looking at offline navigation apps for my phone and some are pretty good too. I've been a Garmin user for many years, but now it's time to move on.
I think
I think your right. I have been using google maps along with my garmin. It's just about time to ditch the GARMIN.
Garmin Won't Be A Glovebox Dweller Here, BUT...
My Garmin is about to become a permanent glovebox dweller. Even when the maps are "updated" there are too many errors unresolved. I've been looking at offline navigation apps for my phone and some are pretty good too. I've been a Garmin user for many years, but now it's time to move on.
For offline navigation on Android I've been using Here, since it is the source of Garmin's maps. Having tried other options I found it to be the best alternative to a paid option like Sygic.
I know the writing is on the wall for Garmin in the automotive segment and have known it for years now: it was one of the reasons I left this forum. But at the same time I love having the GPS on my dashboard, ready to use. I'm just fortunate my navigation needs are not extensive.
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." --Douglas Adams
Can't disagree
My Garmin is about to become a permanent glovebox dweller. Even when the maps are "updated" there are too many errors unresolved. I've been looking at offline navigation apps for my phone and some are pretty good too. I've been a Garmin user for many years, but now it's time to move on.
For offline navigation on Android I've been using Here, since it is the source of Garmin's maps. Having tried other options I found it to be the best alternative to a paid option like Sygic.
I know the writing is on the wall for Garmin in the automotive segment and have known it for years now: it was one of the reasons I left this forum. But at the same time I love having the GPS on my dashboard, ready to use. I'm just fortunate my navigation needs are not extensive.
I agree with what everyone says about the automotive market drying up, but I have kind of an emotional attachment with my dashboard mounted gps and the whole rigmarole of updating my personal POIs and then reloading them into the unit by using my well-oiled procedures. I shall soldier on and wait patiently by the side of the road waiting for the next Garmin update.
Phil
"No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."
possible
there might not be another map update ! and if there is it could be the last one . but it would be nice if they would give loyal customers some type of notice !
Map update.
I am not giving up yet. Europe got a 2024.20 update so it is still possible NA will get one too. That said, with the declining sales of dedicated automotive GPS devices, it wouldn't surprise me if Garmin goes to one update a year. As long as Garmin continues to offer and sell new Drive, RV, Dezl and Zumo devices, I think they will continue to have map updates. Here's hoping anyway! Don't be surprised though if they discontinue map updates on more and more older devices as they have done with the nuvi 3xx, 6xx, 8xx and a few others.
I will have to admit that I am using the on-board navigation system in my new Toyota and have not tried to find a mounting spot for my DriveLuxe 51. However if I ever am able to take a long road trip again, I will use the DriveLuxe because of its multipoint route planning capability.
I am still using the nuvi 3597 in my old Ford Ranger which I use mostly for local driving and short road trips.
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
Has anyone tried reaching
Has anyone tried reaching out to garmin to inquire when the next update will be available?
Whit I'll miss..
When the time comes, as it must, what I'll miss most is the ability to add to my own personal POI's. I have probably a total of a thousand lines of POIs that I'll not be able to use. On the other hand, I agree with alandb that as long as Garmin is releasing new dashboard models how can they not come out with updates? What I don't understand though is Garmin's silence about their plans for the automotive market. Oh well, farewell old Garmin, we hardly knew ye.
Phil
"No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."
Maybe..
there isn't going to be any more updates?
Garmin Nuvi 765T, Garmin Drive 60LM
doubt
there isn't going to be any more updates?
What's the legal definition of 'lifetime' map updates?
Page 7?
…nope.
One more try…
…oh so close lol
Third time lucky?
…doesn’t like me.
Lifetime
What's the legal definition of 'lifetime' map updates?
The lifetime of the device, as determined by Garmin. Since they are still selling new devices, there will continue to be map updates, and the frequency of those updates is officially up to 3 per year. Reality says you can expect at best 1 update per year.
Responding to a different poster, asking Garmin when the next update will be is pointless. Others have done so before, and Garmin has never tipped their hand.
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." --Douglas Adams
I just occasionally attach
I just occasionally attach my device and update. Occasionally being defined as every year or so (+-) when I remember.
GPS
I agree. I love my Garmin but it is not as reliable as the Waze and does not offer alternatives like Waze does. I use my GPS b/c if I use Waze in Android Auto, I can't play music from my IPod since there is only 1 slot.
Tuesday
Morning bump while we continue to wait.
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
Garmin Map Update Watch: 2024.20
It seems to be a longer time than usual this time around.
271 days
It seems to be a longer time than usual this time around.
This is apparently the longest it's ever been (271 days) for the North American maps. The 2024.10 update was on Feb 01, 2023 (Wed). Previously it was 203 days from 2023.20 - Jul 13, 2022.
Release Date History For Garmin Maps
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
re
It seems to be a longer time than usual this time around.
This is apparently the longest it's ever been (271 days) for the North American maps. The 2024.10 update was on Feb 01, 2023 (Wed). Previously it was 203 days from 2023.20 - Jul 13, 2022.
Release Date History For Garmin Maps
Yeah, this sucks. My street was built over 3 years ago and it's still not mapped
Garmin Public Land Map Update 2023.10
I just had a Garmin Public Land Map Update (2023.10) installed for my Garmin Montana 700 Handheld Unit. So maybe other map updates are forthcoming.
Gary
better luck next year
It does look like the map updates apply to devices other than auto GPS so I don't think they are going to stop though they have obviously become less frequent.
Devices compatible with City Navigator® North America NT
https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/1456#devices
For older devices, there is a notice that as of July 1 2023 map updates will be discontinued, but the notice is for Australia/New Zealand.
https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=pHuPuK8tGB28NJL4LDhkn8...
Aww, c'mon...
Aww, c'mon and listen up, Garmin. Your loyal customers need, yea crave, the new maps. You gotta have 'em by now, so how about letting us have 'em. However, if you got 'em and they don't work, then never mind we'll wait.
Phil
"No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."
the current map is 2024.10
I just had a Garmin Public Land Map Update (2023.10) installed for my Garmin Montana 700 Handheld Unit. So maybe other map updates are forthcoming.
Gary
For the auto GPS, 2023.10 is from 2022, the current NA map is 2024.10.
EU got a 2024.20, so agree, something will be forthcoming, but when.
I agree wholeheartedly with
I agree wholeheartedly with you!!!!!
NickJr Nuvi 3597LMT
Next Week?
This week is almost over.
Monday
bump while we wait.
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
Garmin
Is now getting it in their own forum. :-) People wondering where the next NA map update is.
Garmin Express, where are the map updates? The last North American map update was back in February 2023.
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
What do you bet ...
Is now getting it in their own forum. People wondering where the next NA map update is.
Garmin Express, where are the map updates? The last North American map update was back in February 2023.
What do you bet that they won't get an answer.
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
2024.20 Now Available
I'm downloading the new map update now. City Navigator North America 2024.20
Old Geezer
Now begins the wait
For the next map release. Going to suck if it goes another 250+ days.
I'm downloading the new map update now. City Navigator North America 2024.20
Funny I just checked Garmin Express about two hours ago, no update. Now there is.
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
confirmed, see NA 2024.20 now
confirmed, see NA 2024.20 now
so good
so good
Expect the next one in q4
Expect the next one in q4 2024!
Yeah, feels like if we don't
Yeah, feels like if we don't get one by April they've gone to once-a-year for sure.
*
confirmed, see NA 2024.20 now
About god-damned time.
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." --Douglas Adams